[Dag-o-baa]

What Kate Does
Kate-Centric

Synopsis
Kate finds herself on the run, while Jack is tasked with something that could endanger a friend's life

Promos

[Dag-o-baa]

Sneak Peeks

[The Stool Sample]

I'm super pumped about Lost... but meh about Kate-centric...

[ShadowDog]

Not loving the Kate on the run retreads, but she's mega delish so at least I can look at the eye candy.

This is going to be a slow one, though.

[Wambli Olowan]

I thought Claire looked like she might be preggers . . . . . .but I couldn't tell for sure . . . . . .

[Jason Solo]

Of late Kate-centric episodes, at least the flashing portion of her stories, have been snoozers, so hopefully this one breaks the trend. Maybe Claire's presence will help. If not though the on-island stuff looks to be good, especially the last ten minutes from what I'm hearing. I don't know what the hell that means, but I like when I hear things like that.

And I'm pretty sure Claire is still pregnant.

[groove terminator]

[ShadowDog]

Yeah she was. But pregnant Claire was boring even back in the day. What I want to see is this new badassed evilized Claire we glimpsed in the cabin. She's ****ing HAWT when she's evil. ROWL!

[Jason Solo]

On-island she rarely did much, but I always found Claire's episodes to be some of the best, it seemed like they always included some awesome reveal.

[ShadowDog]

Can you FEEL the power of Lost? Can you FEEL the power?!? Lay your hands on the TV and FEEL THE POWER! Praise Jacob! Can I get an amen? CAN I GET AN AMEN?!? Raise your eyes to the light and FEEL the power of Lost coming back to TV screens tonight! YEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAW!!!!

[tripsbacks]

ShadowDog, on 09 February 2010 - 01:42 PM, said:

Can you FEEL the power of Lost? Can you FEEL the power?!? Lay your hands on the TV and FEEL THE POWER! Praise Jacob! Can I get an amen? CAN I GET AN AMEN?!? Raise your eyes to the light and FEEL the power of Lost coming back to TV screens tonight! YEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAW!!!!

Amen Brotha!

[Evolence]

I'm a little bit meh about this being a Kate-centric episode. I agree, Kate perpetually being on the run is getting old.

[ShadowDog]

Yeah, me too, which is why I was trying to geek myself up. LMFAO

[TuskenRaider]

More later, but I think Sayid and apparently Claire are sick in the same way that Danielles team was sick.

Very cool seeing Claire back though! She went all Roussou(sp??) on us!

[Dr. Ifto]

Yep, they said Claire was sick. But I love seeing Claire back!

Man, Sawyer is going through some rough **** man. I never imagined from the beginning this would be his path.

[TuskenRaider]

Me either, but that was an awesome scene with him at the wedding ring. I didn't see that coming at all and it was done really nicely.

[Fixxxer]

I agree. That was an intense scene with Sawyer, really love the journey his character is on

Not too blown away by this episode...which is what I expected each episode of the final season to do.

Hope it starts picking up steam soon.

However, the thought of the Losties being divided into 2 teams and having an ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny is VERY exciting so we'll see.

I kinda wanted that Justin guy to live...seemed like he had some answers.

Interesting to see Ethan...so is he there because the island never existed as well? No Island...no Dharma...No need for Horace Goodspeed to go to the island..but then again, the girl we see Horace with at Ben's birth, isn't the same as the one who gives birth to Ethan....k.....getting pretty far ahead here...

[Tex]

I'm going to toss out a theory. I think that one of the two realities is going to be wiped out by some kind of time travel thingy. My guess is that the LAX version is going to be wiped out by something that one of the losties does, something involving Daniel or his mom, thus making the island reality the real one. Just a theory.

[Dr. Ifto]

I have to agree because that time line doesn't have the developed characters that we love. I would hate to have a reset button on them be the story that sticks.

[Sapphire73]

The Kate stuff as usual was a snooze, but the temple stuff was pretty good. Watching Sawyer just broke my heart, and it was nice to see the introduction of Claire-seau

[Wambli Olowan]

Did Dogen really swallow the pill? I was taking notes and wasn't looking at that moment . . . . .. **** . . . . .. .

[Dr. Ifto]

Wambli Olowan, on 09 February 2010 - 10:48 PM, said:

Did Dogen really swallow the pill? I was taking notes and wasn't looking at that moment . . . . .. **** . . . . .. .

I saw him grab the pill, but he did not swallow it. It was poison and would have killed him. He was talking about Jack swallowing the pill and himself having to make jack unswallow it.

[TuskenRaider]

Yeah, I definitely didn't understand why Ethan was there. And the fact that he made it an important note to use the name 'goodspeed' tells us that they want us to know that he was still Horaces' kid. But Horace wouldn't have had him if he wasn't on the island.... so wtf. No answers there.


A lot of good lines in this episode though:

"I shouldn't have followed you..."
"Which time?"

[TuskenRaider]

Found this on another site:

Interesting facts (based on wiki) on the real life Dogen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dōgen

But more notably, Dogen wrote Treasury of the Eye of the True Dharma or Shōbōgenzō, a collection of ninety-five fascicles concerning Buddhist practice and enlightenment.

An excerpt from the book states, "In death, he lives."

[ShadowDog]

They finally got me. See, I would have told Sayid to take the pill. I totally trusted the Others in that moment. And I would have been wrong and Sayid would have been dead. Of course, that might end up having been for the best if Sayid goes all Dark Side on us.

This episode pretty much sucked though. The Kate running **** was as boring as we feared it'd be. But worse, it was highly unlikely. Um, they don't have lojacks on cabs these days? That's hard to believe. I also like how they hand waved the cab leaving the airport with the luggage stuck to the front of it. It takes for ****ing ever to get out of LAX by car and they just raced away without getting stopped by security or the police? Bull ****ing ****.

So far all the alternative timeline is doing is wasting precious time in an already short final season. They really have this little story left they can afford to spend half of every episode wanking off? It would have been interesting if Jack and some others remembered the other timeline but they don't so it's pretty ****ing pointless so far. Oh, but it gave us the ironic Alternate Ethan with his fan winking dialogue that would make the Smallville writers blush. Oh really? You don't want to stick Claire with needles? Shut the **** UP!

Meanwhile, three of eighteen hours are gone and we've had how much of the most interesting story going into this season, the Evil Locke/Ben/Richard stuff? How much of that so far? Ten minutes total in three shows?

Fortunately it looks like we're getting back to that next week. It's about ****ing time.

TuskenRaider, on 09 February 2010 - 11:01 PM, said:

More later, but I think Sayid and apparently Claire are sick in the same way that Danielles team was sick.

Yeah, that part was interesting. Finally getting some info on this "sickness" we've been hearing about for six seasons.

[Dark Lord]

There are waaaaaay too many questions to be answered and things we need to see to waste time with a "filler" episode like this.
Pretty disappointing.
The whole Kate/Claire thing was about as useless as that Ethan guy. (I can't believe they're still paying that guy to be on the show!!)

[TuskenRaider]

I thought the Kate stuff was pretty boring too, but I like the alternate timeline so far. As I said earlier, I think all of this stuff is actually the ending to the series, so keeping that in mind, it's interesting for me to watch it that way.


And so far none of the people seem to remember the original time line, but they keep showing strange looks. I'm not quite sure what it means. For example in this episode, when Kate was in the cab trying to leave LAX, they showed her seeing Jack standing at the terminal. Kinda strange... but it looked like she recognized him, or at the very least, had a sense of deja vu. The same look occured when Claire said Aarons name.

[Iceheart]

Yeah, not a total "blow you away" episode. But I've been thinking that it's probably going to work out that even without being on the Island, it'll all turn out much the same - everyone who died on the Island still dies, everyone who hooks up still hooks up, etc... and here's an episode where Claire ends up keeping Aaron, and Ethan is her OB when she goes into early labor.

[ShadowDog]

If I want to see strange looks I'll wear a speedo in public. What I want from this show is ****ing answers.

[TuskenRaider]

I'm sure they're coming, you can put down the pitchforks.

[Dr. Ifto]

I'm just holding out hope that in the end it will all make sense.

[Wambli Olowan]

Kate looked at herself in the mirror at the garage, much the way Jack did on the plane.

The way Dogen spoke of the blackness that will reach to the heart, makes me wonder if they ARE the good guys, but is hard to see Ben, with all his lies and manipulation, as a good guy. I do not always believe that the end justifys the means.

[Jason Solo]

Well I got one complaint right off the bat, as far as the writers go, the time has passed for their usual portrayal of the Others being annoyingly secretive. We all get it, that was their M.O. in the past. But there's a problem in insisting on writing them this way now, and not just because its the final year. It doesn't make sense in the narrative anymore. It made sense before because these were intruders to the island as far as they knew, so no, they don't want these people to know ****. But here's what the Others know now: MIB is now in power, and they now have categoric proof, from Jacob himself, that Jack and these others are not just intruders, they have been picked by Jacob to be there because they are integral to this fight. So, when Jack asks a question....have them ****ing answer his question. It doesn't make sense for them to continue this dodging. For me its not about me being anxious for the answers, I believe they'll be answered just fine, I don't need them piled up one after another in the first three hours of the final season, my only problem is it makes no damned sense for the Others to hide **** anymore when directly asked by people they know are meant to be involved.

That aside, there were definitely some good things. I LOVE the Sickness coming back, although I'm quite concerned that it has hold of both Sayid and Claire. (which by the way, is enough to make me confident now like the rest of you that Christian WAS Smokey, no more doubts. The ash ring still bugs me, but like I said, they can, and hopefully will, clear that up quite easily). And like Rousseau's crew, its further proof that the infection is Smokey taking hold of a person, making him/her "dark". I wonder how it even had a chance to get to Sayid, though.

I like seeing Sawyer's bitterness begin to shine through, with his comments about Sayid getting another shot at life, and they further his despair by revealing he blames himself for making Juliet stay in the first place, and reveal he was going to propose to her. I also like how they did not just forget about Kate's reason for returning to the island, and that she was breaking off from the Others and going to find Sawyer in the hopes that he'd help her find her. I was going to be very annoyed if all of it only served the damn relationship stories which I honestly couldn't give a **** about anymore (and really, those scenes certainly were intended for fans of that, but the reason script-wise for her ditching the Others had to do with Claire and that's enough for me).

But yeah, with any luck, there is some sort of cure discovered for the sickness because I don't want to see execution as the final fates of both Sayid and Claire.

[TuskenRaider]

Yeah the question dodging is a bit annoying, but to be fair, when Jack told those guys to step aside and let him see the big boss, they let him right through, no questions asked. It's only the two TOP guys that are being real secretive. And he did eventually give Jack the truth. Maybe Jacks boldness in trying to swallow the pill will make them trust him a bit more.

[TuskenRaider]

Also, perhaps is this the sickness that the Quarantine hatch was needed for? Remember the injections that Desmond and even Claire for awhile were taking? The vaccine. At the time we thought it was just a placebo kinda thing, but maybe not.

[Jason Solo]

Yeah, I'm hoping Jack's move will make Dogen and the other guy stop the matador B.S. Beyond that though Dogen's damned cool, he's a good addition to the show.

[TuskenRaider]

Yeah, I like Dogen so far, but I'm very interested to see how he works with Richard. I assume Richard is the top dog other, but I don't know. Also, I found it interesting that Dogen said that he was 'brought here', and implied that it was in a similar way to how Jack was 'brought here'.

[Jason Solo]

So here's an idea...if Sayid was infected by Smokey, you gotta pinpoint when it happened, and the only connection I can think of is the discolored spring. If this is maybe Smokey's influence "tainting" the spring (something Dogen and the others wouldn't have realized yet because they didn't know Jacob was dead), perhaps that's what infected Sayid in the first place. With that said, I wonder if Dogen hasn't become infected now as well without knowing it when he put his cut hand into the spring.

[Jacen123]

TuskenRaider, on 09 February 2010 - 11:00 PM, said:

Yeah, I definitely didn't understand why Ethan was there. And the fact that he made it an important note to use the name 'goodspeed' tells us that they want us to know that he was still Horaces' kid. But Horace wouldn't have had him if he wasn't on the island.... so wtf. No answers there.

But if it was the bomb that caused all of that, then Ethan would have been born to Horace and [Woman] on the island in the same way. They didn't say it specifically, but they were evacuating the island of nonessential personnel, so wouldn't Ethan and his mom have been taken off-island then in the sub? If the island was "destroyed" then, then the sub never would have come back, so he would still be out there.

Jason Solo, on 09 February 2010 - 11:24 PM, said:

That aside, there were definitely some good things. I LOVE the Sickness coming back, although I'm quite concerned that it has hold of both Sayid and Claire. (which by the way, is enough to make me confident now like the rest of you that Christian WAS Smokey, no more doubts. The ash ring still bugs me, but like I said, they can, and hopefully will, clear that up quite easily). And like Rousseau's crew, its further proof that the infection is Smokey taking hold of a person, making him/her "dark". I wonder how it even had a chance to get to Sayid, though.

They sort of cleared up the ash ring issue in the annoying pop-ups in the repeat of LA X Part 2 tonight. The text said that the ash ring was keeping the smoke monster OUT of the cabin. That lends support to the idea that perhaps the Man in Black had been split in two or disembodied and that the smoke monster form was trying to get into the cabin to be reunited. Also, the revelation about Claire getting the sickness heavily implies that she was the person to break the ash ring at the urging of "Christian." I don't recall if we saw that the ash ring had been broken by the time Locke went back to the cabin, but it seems that was likely the case.

My best guess as to when Sayid was infected was during the ill-fated revival attempt. I figure that it involves the fact that the water was no longer clear.

[Jason Solo]

Interesting though how sides are shaping up in regards to original characters. These first three episodes have seen some of these characters fall, or begin to fall, to the darkside. Locke (not really Locke but he wears his face), Claire, Sayid, and more than likely Sawyer, vs. the other side of Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Jin.