[Otanku]

David, on 7 Sep 2009, 05:14 PM, said:

4 main things i noticed saturday:

florida is FREAKISHLY scary.

...because they beat the living daylights out of a Div IAA team (or FCS or whatever they're called)??

Darth Whoever said:

Otanku, I'm so jealous you get to go. I went to an official Texas watching bar here but it's just not the same as 100,000 people.

andy, you were AT the national championship game against USC, so I don't even wanna hear it!

[ShadowDog]

UK Legend Killa, on 7 Sep 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

Now that HS has disappeared I can finally ask this question:

What in the blue **** is a seminole??!

It's a kind of Native American. I assume the tribe that played football or something.

[Lucas1138]

Miami and FSU just finished up a classic. 6 lead changes en route to a 38-34 Miami victory on a non-touchdown throw as time expired at the goal line. Pretty exciting.

[Metropolis]

I'm getting too old for games like that. When we went up I knew they would come back. Since we were in the endzone we couldn't tell if he caught the ball. When review came in(how climatic) I just laid back on the rafters and breathed a sigh of relief.

[Otanku]

that was an awesome game and a great way to end the opening weekend of college football. I had a feeling the Canes were going to win. It'll be interesting to see how Miami fares against a Bradford-less OU team in a couple of weeks.

[Metropolis]

Well the OU game is Oct 3rd. I suspect that will be when he makes his return. The thing will be if Gresham is back. Either way we won't get credit for beating them. Becuase the press will say OU isn't as good as last year, even though they were good enough to be ranked 3rd preseaon.

[Mara Jade Skywalker]

Hey Met - I went to the USF game on Saturday and got a backstage tour of Raymond James Stadium. It was way more exciting than the game, which was really boring!


UCF won their first game, yay!

[Destiny Skywalker]

Week 2 AP Poll:
1 Florida (56)
2 Texas (2) 1-0
3 USC 1-0
4 Alabama (2) 1-0
5 Oklahoma State 1-0
6 Mississippi 1-0
7 Penn State 1-0
8 Ohio State 1-0
9 Brigham Young 1-0
10 California 1-0
11 LSU 1-0
12 Boise State 1-0
13 Oklahoma 0-1
14 Virginia Tech 0-1
15 Georgia Tech 1-0
16 TCU 0-0
17 Utah 1-0
18 Notre Dame 1-0
19 North Carolina 1-0
20 Miami (FL) 1-0
21 Georgia 0-1
22 Nebraska 1-0
23 Cincinnati 1-0
24 Kansas 1-0
25 Missouri 1-0

Wow, Oregon took a bigger knock in the polls than I thought they would. Honestly, I think part of it is media backlash for poor sportsmanship. Boise State isn't a cakewalk team. We'll see how Oregon fares against Purdue this weekend.

I think BYU is getting a little too much credit. OU lost Bradford and their backup QB was clearly nervous as hell and not ready. TCU and Utah are the only decent names on their schedule. While I wouldn't mind seeing a BCS buster, this is maybe a little early.

[Lucas1138]

Purdue had Oregon on the ropes last year and Joe Tiller got more conservative than Rush Limbaugh in the 2nd half and choked the game away. Hope it doesn't happen again, BOILER UP!

As for Notre Dame, watching them beat Michigan at Michigan will be fun

[ShadowDog]

Notre Dame's ranked behind two 0-1 teams? <straightens tie> No respect, no respect!

[Good God a Bear]

Destiny Skywalker, on 8 Sep 2009, 01:42 PM, said:

Wow, Oregon took a bigger knock in the polls than I thought they would. Honestly, I think part of it is media backlash for poor sportsmanship. Boise State isn't a cakewalk team. We'll see how Oregon fares against Purdue this weekend.

Okay, I'm not saying what the Oregon player did wasn't poor sportsmanship because it was. He deserves what he gets. However, why isn't anyone talking about the fact that it probably wouldnt' have happened if the dumb ass Boise State guy hadn't stopped him and mouthed off? Wasn't that poor sportsmanship too?

And on that note... #4 and Rolllllll Tide!

[Destiny Skywalker]

It was pretty stupid. However, I enjoy seeing ****-talkers get their just due.

[UK Legend Killa]

Good God a Bear, on 8 Sep 2009, 09:23 PM, said:

Destiny Skywalker, on 8 Sep 2009, 01:42 PM, said:

Wow, Oregon took a bigger knock in the polls than I thought they would. Honestly, I think part of it is media backlash for poor sportsmanship. Boise State isn't a cakewalk team. We'll see how Oregon fares against Purdue this weekend.

Okay, I'm not saying what the Oregon player did wasn't poor sportsmanship because it was. He deserves what he gets. However, why isn't anyone talking about the fact that it probably wouldnt' have happened if the dumb ass Boise State guy hadn't stopped him and mouthed off? Wasn't that poor sportsmanship too?

They were both idiots. Plainly shown by the fact that the coach tried to pull the Boise State player away when he saw him being a douche. Unfortunately he just distracted him long enough for the Oregon guy to get a nice shot on his jaw.

If Blount (is that right?) had left it or just squared up to him all the negativity would have been on Boise and not him

[Otanku]

Destiny Skywalker, on 8 Sep 2009, 01:42 PM, said:

Wow, Oregon took a bigger knock in the polls than I thought they would. Honestly, I think part of it is media backlash for poor sportsmanship. Boise State isn't a cakewalk team. We'll see how Oregon fares against Purdue this weekend.

I think BYU is getting a little too much credit. OU lost Bradford and their backup QB was clearly nervous as hell and not ready. TCU and Utah are the only decent names on their schedule. While I wouldn't mind seeing a BCS buster, this is maybe a little early.

I think Oregon's atrocious play is more why they got knocked out of the poll than the post-game shenanigans. The offense was allegedly high powered and they were completely inept against Boise st.

As to BYU, I think the fact taht the Mountain West already has some cache from the Utah win last year, TCU's sustained competitiveness and the fact that BYU already came in with a top 20 ranking, they were put about where I expected them to land. They still beat a top 5 opponent, and yes Bradford went out, but the game was 7-7 when he did, and at the end of the day, OU's defense couldn't stop BYU from taking the lead, and that had nothing to do w/ Bradford. If you're top 20 and you beat a top 5, particuarly when it's a preseason ranking and mostly just a dart board guess at who's better, then vaulting them to ~10th is about right, IMO.

BYU will get another chance to show they are legit when they play FSU. If they beat them as well, and then end up running the table at 13-0, if there is only 1 other undefeated BCS team (or more importantly if there are none), expect BYU to play for the NC.

[David]

well missouri got into the top 25 pretty quick.

[Otanku]

ya mizzou looked pretty good in teh opener. Let's see how they fare in October when they play nebraska/texas/okie state back-back-back.

[Metropolis]

Honestly this has to be Dan Hawkins last year at Colorado. Gary Barnett might have recruited his players in the Champagne Room, but at least they were competitive. Getting smoked AT Toledo? His son isn't that good either.

[Doc Brown]

Anyone want to buy my Colorado season tickets? This is getting embarrassing.

[Rock]

Chomp!

[The Choc]

Charlie Weis has gotta go, this is a goddamn joke. Hes never won anything resembling an important game since taking over.

[Destiny Skywalker]

Knew Ok State was overrated, too. But Houston? Damn!

[Lucas1138]

Well there's Notre Dame's one...

Gotta win out now or else Charlie Weiss is back in the NFL after this season I think (bad thing?)

[Metropolis]

Thanks a lot Florida State for not making both of us look like we suck.

[Otanku]

wow crazy day of football. Michigan beat ND. That's not really a surprise, but this was supposed to be ND's "year" right?

Okie St after scoring a big win over Georgia gets embarrased by Houston. Houston??

Texas was very sluggish early against Wyoming but dominates as expected in the 2nd half.

Alabama also struggled early, but then dominated as well.

Ohio State... DAMN you guys suck! That defense played more than well enough to win that game. That last drive they were just gassed, but how many times can you force punts on USC and give your offense the ball only to not get anything done? Tressel has been called conservative to a fault, and tonight I think proved that again. 4th and goal from the 2 in the 1st half, you should punch it in like Pete did to you earlier, show your offense you have confidence!

When you are up 5 and the ball is on the 35 yd line and you have a kicker with a leg, KICK the field goal and at least give your team a chance to at best not get beat on a TD drive!

BIG question for any OSU fans: Tressell has restored a standard of excellence to Ohio St, Big 10 titles, a BCS title, and multiple BCS berths. But this team has not been able to defeat a significant opponent since losing to Florida in '06, so the question is: will the rich Alumni start seriously pondering if they need to shop for a new coach? Or is that taking what you have for granted?

If I were actually a fan of the Buckeyes I would probably have been literally sick to my stomach after that kind of loss, so I bet there's a lot of sick folks in Columbus tonight!

[Chaos_Effect]

Anyone else think that Notre Dame's AD is going to be filling out a pink slip after the MSU game next week? Great game today, and I was there to enjoy it all.

[Rock]

Otanku, on 7 Sep 2009, 09:18 PM, said:

David, on 7 Sep 2009, 05:14 PM, said:

4 main things i noticed saturday:

florida is FREAKISHLY scary.

...because they beat the living daylights out of a Div IAA team (or FCS or whatever they're called)??

Dude, I don't think they were even a college team. Mighta been like a HS varsity squad.

[Rock]

Chaos_Effect, on 13 Sep 2009, 12:24 AM, said:

Anyone else think that Notre Dame's AD is going to be filling out a pink slip after the MSU game next week?

I think everyone on the sidelines wearing an Irish polo shirt should be canned. Weis must be blackmailing the ND dean or something.

[ShadowDog]

He is, in a way, considering his heavy contract and the hit they'd take to fire his fat incompetent ass.

[James Madison]

What defeated Notre Dame was not Coach Weiss. Coach Weiss conceived and implemented a brilliant offensive scheme. What impeded the scheme from annihilating Michigan was deplorable execution of the scheme by the players, principally the holding penalties by the offensive line, especially the infraction committed by 4 year starter Sam Young, which negated a 71 reception by tight end Kyle Rudolph. The following is what contributed to Notre Dame defeating itself, as opposed to Michigan winning the game.

A.) Inability to get to the quarterback. The defensive secondary did its job, on most occasions Forcier dropped back to pass, he did not immediately have a passing opportunity, he had to scramble out of the pocket. His ability to scramble, and the defenses inability to tackle him, gave his wide receivers more time to get open, which is precisely what happened.

B.) A total of 27 yards of offense in the third quarter. Such an offensive production is not going to defeat any opponent.

C.) Defensive lines inability to stop the run when necessary.

I said before the beginning of the game, Notre Dame needed to put Michigan in third in long scenarios to win this game, to force the freshman quarterback to have to pass to beat you as opposed to scrambling for the yardage. This did not occur. They successfully ran the ball when it was necessary.

[Chaos_Effect]

James Madison, on 14 Sep 2009, 09:15 AM, said:

What defeated Notre Dame was not Coach Weiss. Coach Weiss conceived and implemented a brilliant offensive scheme. What impeded the scheme from annihilating Michigan was deplorable execution of the scheme by the players, principally the holding penalties by the offensive line, especially the infraction committed by 4 year starter Sam Young, which negated a 71 reception by tight end Kyle Rudolph. The following is what contributed to Notre Dame defeating itself, as opposed to Michigan winning the game.

A.) Inability to get to the quarterback. The defensive secondary did its job, on most occasions Forcier dropped back to pass, he did not immediately have a passing opportunity, he had to scramble out of the pocket. His ability to scramble, and the defenses inability to tackle him, gave his wide receivers more time to get open, which is precisely what happened.

B.) A total of 27 yards of offense in the third quarter. Such an offensive production is not going to defeat any opponent.

C.) Defensive lines inability to stop the run when necessary.

I said before the beginning of the game, Notre Dame needed to put Michigan in third in long scenarios to win this game, to force the freshman quarterback to have to pass to beat you as opposed to scrambling for the yardage. This did not occur. They successfully ran the ball when it was necessary.

I kind of bristle at the notion that Notre Dame defeated itself instead of saying Michigan won the game. Michigan won the game, plain and simple. They executed a last minute TD drive to take the lead over ND. They were losing, and then they did things that put them in position to win.

Coach Weiss [sic] did not help the players any with some of his calls, namely on Notre Dame's second to last possession. Instead of running the ball and either getting a first down or forcing Michigan to use its final timeouts, Charlie went for the kill shot. Now that's his prerogative as head coach, and if it had worked people would be praising him for what he did, but it didn't. I could armchair coach him all day (hell, I could actually step in there and do the job), but he would have been better off forcing Michigan to call their timeouts and leaving them to drive the field with a minute left and no time outs.

You were right about the holding though. ND's o-line did them no favors either.

[James Madison]

Well Notre Dame defeated themselves. I suppose you can "bristle" all you'd like at such a notion.

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They were losing, and then they did things that put them in position to win.

They were losing because they beat themselves. A long pass play nullified by a hold, a fumble at mid-field, and apparently they were not prepared to play the 3rd quarter. All of this indicates Notre Dame defeated themselves as opposed to Michigan beating them. The fact Notre Dame scored 14 points with relative ease in the 4th quarter, and 20 points in the first half with over or near 300 yards of total offense, indicates the Michigan defense could not stop Notre Dame from scoring. What precluded Notre Dame from scoring more points was Notre Dame, their penalties, a fumble, and lack of intensity in the third quarter. This game cannot remotely be characterized as one where the Michigan defense shut down the Notre Dame offense, because the Michigan defense did not. Notre Dame had a total of 490 yards of offense, with Clausen passing for 336 yards.

Combine this with a touchdown by Armondo Allen reversed although the evidence to do so by the camera angles, specifically one camera angle, was inconclusive. Therefore, there was insufficient evidence to nullify the sideline judge's determination Allen had remained in bounds. Let's not forget this sideline judge was only a few feet away from Armondo.

All of this adds up to Notre Dame losing this game, as opposed to Michigan winning it.

[Darth Irish]

I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. I think the real point when the game ws basically over wAS the QB draw by the Michigan kid where he cut back left and walked into the end zone. Rodriguez's spread offense is well conceived, and that QB has the skills to run it well. The right QB in that system always does well - look at Pat White aty WVU and Shaun King when Rodriguez was the OC at Tulane.

It was a great game nevertheless. I will say I was pretty surprised that Michigan got the win.

[Otanku]

where's Metropolis?? BIG game tonight for the Canes against Georgia Tech. If Miami has really turned the corner they need to win this game. In their last four, they are 1-3 against the yellow jackets...

My pick: Miami 24 Ga Tech 20

Saturday key games:

Florida vs Tennessee - Kiffin came into the league opening his mouth big time and fired a volley to Urban Meyer during recruiting. The Gators want to make a statement game here and blow out the Vols. I see Florida winning this game of course, but not a blow out like the talking heads predict. 31-17 Gators.

Cal vs Minnesota - Cal is a top 10 team and this is a matchup that will determine if they are indeed a heavyweight that can knock off USC in the Pac 10, or are they more like Okie St and will be exposed by a good team? Minnesota would love to win this game to help legitimize that the Big 10 CAN beat a Pac 10 opponent. 35-14 Cal.

Florida St vs BYU - BYU has another chance to prove it is a legit national title contender by knocking off another "big name" BCS opponent (even if it's in name only). Florida St can show they are a definite Top 25 team and not going backwards with a win here. BYU 21 FSU 17

Nebraska vs Virginia Tech - another chance against a BCS opponent for Virigina Tech to show how the ACC stacks up against a power conference opponent. A win by the cornhuskers would show that the Big 12 is not just about the South teams. Nebraska 24 Va Tech 17.

Texas Tech vs Texas - the media is claiming this is a "revenge" game for the Longhorns, but it was moreso the system that prevented the Longhorns from avoiding a chance to play for the Big 12 title game than it was the last minute loss to the Raiders. Longhorns are ready simply because they are an elite team, and aren't really on a revenge motivator. Game is at home and the Longhorns usually blow Tech out in Austin. Texas 45 Tech 21.

[Destiny Skywalker]

Met, I gotta admit, I wasn't sure Miami belonged in the Top 25, but I believe it now. Good job against GT.

I'm not a Florida fan, but I can't wait for Kiffin to eat his shoe.

[Otanku]

you know all the talking heads think this game is gonna be a blowout, because it's effing florida. But Monte Kiffin is the D coord in Tennessee and it's not like the Vols don't have any talent. While they aren't NFL players, having an NFL D coordinator scheming for the biggest game of their season? Man he's gonna dial up some crazy blitz packages...

[Lucas1138]

I don't think even Monte can save Lane this weekend...

I'm going to the Notre Dame game tomorrow!!!!

[The Choc]

This is a goddamn joke. Michigan State lost AT HOME last week to CENTRAL MICHIGAN and now they lead the Irish by a point late in the 2nd quarter. This is atrocious, Weis has to go. Just has to. They are a totally unprepared team.

During todays game theyve had:

6 penalties in the 1st half including 2 personal fouls on a MSU TD drive

They allowed a successful onsides kick

They got a god damn penalty for 2=too many men on the field on the first play after a kickoff.


These are not things that good, well prepared football teams do. These are the signs of a team with awful coaching.

[ShadowDog]

And this coming from a fat son of a bitch who said his teams would ALWAYS be the better coached team. Lying fat mother****er.

Time to get Urban Meyer up in there!

[Destiny Skywalker]

GAHHH!!! ****ing Blackshirts!!!

[Tex]

Another choke from the University of Spoiled Children. Good times.....