We talked about this a couple years ago but with the new 24 movie coming out on Sunday I thought this would be a good chance to reset the conversation.

But before we get to the lists, how ****ing OLD is Jack Bauer NOW? This movie takes place 3 years after Season 6, and we figured out a couple years ago that Jack had to be in his late 50s then. So he's pushing 60 now, right? RIGHT?

Worst 24 Moments:

1) Kim and the Cougar. Come on, now.

2) Tony's death in Season 5. Lamest ****ing death EVER.

3) Kim's guest starring role in Season 5. What was the point of that again?

4) Nina being a spy in Season 1. I once went through and counted two dozen continuity errors caused by this late season whipping out of the writer's asses. So many things Nina did in Season 1 made no ****ing sense if you watch it with the realization that she's a mole.

5) Curtis's death. Super retarded.

6) Milo's death. Only slightly less retarded.

7) The invasion endgame of Season 2. No way in ****ing HELL the US would invade that quickly. Or even bomb that quickly. How long did it take us to get bizzay after 9-11? A couple weeks? A month? More? Them shoehorning that **** into 8 hours was ludicrous. So much so that the final hours of that season are nearly unwatchable despite the exciting Palmer on trial scenes and the Chief of Staff betrayal it caused.

8) Logan and his wife's guest starring reappearance in Season 6. Um, what was the point of all that beyond stunt casting?

9) Silver Spoons boy getting his eyes blown off. That pissed me off. I liked his character!

10) Edgar. You ****ing ***holes!

Best 24 Moments:

1) The entire final hour of Season 1. How do you top Palmer dumping his bitch hag of a wife and Jack single handedly taking out the bad gang by himself, then blowing away Drazen ... an unarmed Drazen? By killing off his wife in the final seconds! Simply ****ing AWESOME!

2) Chloe, the baby, and Ryan Chappelle in Season 3. They are only a handful of short scenes, but I die laughing every time I watch them. Ryan's reactions to the baby screaming, the whole silliness of it all, and Chloe being Chloe are just so ****ing hilarious! LMFAO

<Baby cries>

<Ryan, who'd been leaving the room, suddenly turns around.> "Chloe, what was that?"

<Chloe rushes over to stand in front of baby basket on the floor> "Nothing!"

LMFAO!!!

4) Logan's wife sticking it to Logan's punk ass in the final episode of Season 5. Logan was hands down the best Big Bad in series history and seeing him take it up the ass from his much abused wife was AWESOME. >:-P~~~~~~~~~~~~~

5) Marie shoots her fiance Reza in Season 2. A chilling revelation sold by the powerful acting of both characters. The heartbreak on Reza's face, the crying but grim coldness of Marie, and the fact that I had NO IDEA she was the mole was a powerful mixture.

6) Jack having to torture his own brother in Season 6.

7) George's 10 episode physical breakdown capped by his final sacrifice in Season 2 was powerfully acted, well written, but perfectly executed all around.

8) Jack being forced to shoot Ryan Chapelle in Season 3. Maybe the most brilliant single episode in series history. (In a Season 6 commentary, the actor who plays Bill Buchanan admits that until he was hired, the only episode he'd watched of 24 was this episode and he said he was completely blown away with how powerful it was.)

9) Jack finally defeating the second best Big Bad in series history, The Mummy, in the final Season 4 episode.

10) Jack has to choose a informant's life over the life of heartbroken Audrey's exhusband. More absolutely brilliant acting on both parts. I really believed that Audrey would have ripped Jack in half had she not been forcibly restrained.

11) This had to make my list because it's another really funny moment. In Season 5 Jack is in the bottom of an airplane but the pilot is trying to knock him out by de-pressurizing his area. Jack begs the pilot to reconsider but this falls on deaf ears. Jack then snarls "Alright, you son of a bitch!" (Which sends chills because you KNOW something bad is about to happen. LMFAO) Jack then precedes to **** with wires and cables and whatnot until he nearly crashes the plane and forces the pilot to let him out of the luggage cabin.

You've actually hit most of the best known moments, good and bad, and I can't think of many mre. so lucky you, you get commentary!



That whole season was bad from her. In 24 hours she almost gets killed by a wife beater, faces cougars, then a gun nut with a bomb shelter (10 minutes outside of LA)-- it just got more and more retarded.



Doesn't count! Michelle's death was lamer though. Her's was practically off screen.



They screwed that up cause they were having a computer crisis. Given her forced storyline above of being a computer expert, she could have saved the day. Instead, she just doted on C Thomas Howell's goatee.



I can't defend that it works in retrospect, but come on. No one ever had the balls to do something like that before. No one saw that coming. Plus, below you laud killing off Terri-- which came to pass cause of Nina. The logisitics were hosed yes, but the idea was gold.



It made me sad.



He was a tard, who cares.



Let's be fair. This was as good as Chapelle. You put it under BAD cause you liked the guy-- but it's actually good because they made you care enough to be moved by the death. Plus that was a key defining moment for Chloe, so I wouldn't take that away.



THANKS TO NINA WHO YOU POO POO



See, I thought Logan was far more pulled-out-of-the-ass than Nina was. But it didn't mater because he was a great actor, who made a great turn, and everything with Jean Smart was brilliant. When he was busted by her at the end it was glorious.



Was he the one who was radiation poisoned, had the crap relationship with hsi son, and flew the bomb into the desert? If so I agree.



At the least one of the best moments of the series, if not the whole of dramatic television. what made it so awesome was that Chapelle was a douche. It took them less than an hour to make a guy I hated for over a year into a sad sympathetic death.


Couple additions after all--

GOOD:

Season 1, the very first time we realized Jack was capable of torture. The guy in the limo.. the towel down the throat...

Chopping of Chase's hand to secure the bomb

Michelle going out to be a field agent in leather

Jack executing Nina

(all season 3 btw)

Bad:

The miraculous recoveries, Jack coming back from a stopped heart, neck from getting shot in the neck, Jack shaking heroin in a few hours while under extreme stress, Wayne Palmer from getting blowed up... though I guess that was temporary...

The fact that CTU had a mole pretty much every season

David Palmer getting killed... that was just CHEAP cause the actor had moved on

The fact that if somebody needs to be somewhere for the plot, LA traffic is ignored, but if they don't have a storyline for an episode thy are (en route) for the episode.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE Bad Nina. She was awesome in the last couple eps of Season 1 and in both appearances in the following seasons. So I don't have a problem with that, even applaud it. No, the only problem I have with it is that they didn't have that plan from the beginning of the season, which is really obvious when you watch Season 1 again. So they deserve to get hammered for that and I do so every chance I get.

Oh, by the way, I remembered another great moment. Jack shooting that child molester and then calling for a hacksaw to remove his ****ing head! LMFAO!!



You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but the show runners stated flat out on the episode commentaries that Logan was planned as the Big Bad from the very beginning of that Season. (not in his first appearence in the previous season, but from the beginning of that season) Now, could they be lying? Well, it wouldn't be the first time that TV show runners have lied to us. But I believe them. I think it's all right there if you watch the entire season back to back. And, as I said, I believe them.

Any moment Elisha Cuthbert is on screen is a great moment.

The Chapelle episode is by far the greatest episode this show has had. The second best moment, for me, is Jack cutting of Chase's hand with the axe. That was some hard core **** right there.

Another powerful moment was the very last minutes of one of the episodes, I forget which one. The day is saved, crisis averted everyone is smiles and hugs. Jack is sitting alone in his parked SUV and starts crying. Everything is over and he just lets go. It's a fantastic moment. Then his cell phine rings or something and he has to go back to work. Damn. If anyone remembers what season or episode that was, I'd appreciate you sharing.

Day 1 & the Chapelle episodes are my favourite at this stage

i am thinking of having a 24 marathon pretty soon, get thru it all before the new Day starts

I believe that was the end to Season 3. Odd how so many of the best moments come from that one, isn't it? You guys have pretty much nailed most of the moments, but I'm sure I'll think of some more later.

Great list dawg. Anything with Kim on it was ****ing annoying...

Yeah, it was the last moments of the last episode of Season 3.

Has any series EVER had so many kick ass final moments in so many season finales as 24? Lost is about the only thing that comes close.

No joy for Jack the vampire the beginning of last season? Haha.

I agree with Tank on the Nina season 1 moment not being sucky. That was a HUGE "ZOMG R U SERIOUS LOLOLOLOL OH NOES!!!!1111". What made it even more powerful was when Jack and her went at each other in Season 3.

Chappel moment was awesome.

Jack being an uber badass who displays serious hand-hand combat mastery is always awesome and i wish they'd have more of it.

some of the things that have irritated me over the years:

- Inconsistency of travel timing: I think season 1 (and part of season 2) did it's best to let distance be measure as close to real time as possible. When they said "30 mins to get to point b" then when the episode ticker elapsed 30 mins later that's when they got there. But, look at last season and how in the hell did Silver Spoons go from being suspicious about what was happening from the Nadia hostage call to miraculously being able to get his team back to CTU like 5 mins later in time to put a bullet in one of the guys??

-No love at all for Jack- I get it, he breaks laws to get his end objective, and he's paid a price for it. In Season 3, though, the US restored their gratitude by giving him back a position of authority in CTU. Yet, in all other seasons he's in the dog house, or worse shipped off to China. A guy that saves the country from doom again and again needs to minted not deserted!!

- CTU chain of command? - this has been very inconsistent. In Season 1, jack was head man in charge at CTU LA, but he was NOT Director of CTU. Mason was the 'big boss' of that season and he was like "Section Cheif" or something. Then when Chappelle came in, he was the Director they sent in from Division, so the executive title of Director always made you think that those guys were too high up to ever be based at the field office in LA. So why then, was Bill Buchanan, an actual Director, also the sr mgr of the LA branch? Eroding the Sr Mgmt line of command has just been a pet peeve of mine, on top of them putting the Director on site when it wasn't established that way the first 3 seasons.

-Season 6 jump the shark- 2 moments for me. I know adrenaline can temporarily cure some ails, and this is after all meant to only be 1 day, but Jack going from being prisoner in china who was clearly shown as being semi-broken to being at full capacity of the traditional jack by the 12th hour was just too convenient. They should have made him purposefully hesitant in moments to show that he really did have true side effects from the Chinese prison.

Second moment was just the whole Audrey thing. She was dead and I didn't like them bringing her back at all.

-moles - look i know there are breaches of security, and the really evil baddies can turn people in key positions, but putting them right in the executive branch AFTER the CTU mole became too cliche was just a bit much for me.

Edgar's death was very moving, to me. Chloe's reaction made it even more heartbreaking. I almost cried.

Yeah, that one was rough. ****ers.

And Sean "Samwise" Astin's death was a good one too.

Why hasn't Jack gotten a en pardon yet? he's saved pretty much every president the show has had save for Logan-- but his VP could've thanked jack for the promotion!

"CHLOE!" Hahaha! I miss him too, but I still laugh at that line, followed by the fall down.

If nothing else, the VP should have pardoned him on the way out the door. I can understand why not before because it would be political suicide to pardon a long time torturer.