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28 Jun 2006, 04:25 PM
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![]() Member Posts: 6779 Joined: 30 Dec 2002 From: Victoria, BC, Canada |
In the Superman question I included all the people who onned the Blue Tights and Red cape including both actors who played in the 'Adventures of Superboy' series.
For Clark Kent I included all of the above plus Tom Welling (Smallville) and Jeff East who played a teenage Clark in the 1978 movie. -------------------- Sith Apprentice to Dark Lady and Goddess Angylkat
'Shev'la kot, verd'yc dha'werd. Aliit Lohr - ratiin tome, draar shuk'la.' "Too much work and too much energy kill a man just as effectively as too much assorted vice or too much drink" ~Rudyard Kipling "Peace if possible, truth at all costs." ~Martin Luther Semper Vigilans ~Ever on Guard |
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28 Jun 2006, 04:27 PM
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![]() Montana Magic Posts: 16174 Joined: 27 Aug 2000
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Christopher Reeve and Christopher Reeve.
...although Brandon Routh comes in a close second. -------------------- Back to pass Montana. Steps up...throws...touchdown 49ers!!! Taylor has got it for the touchdown. A 10-yard pass...the 49ers have scored with 34 seconds remaining.
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28 Jun 2006, 04:44 PM
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![]() zambingo ![]() Posts: 25891 Joined: 9 Mar 2000 From: Alaska
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Reeve and Reeve.
If Christopher Reeve's films had the SFX that Routh's film has... this wouldn't even be a contest. -------------------- |
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28 Jun 2006, 04:51 PM
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RAWR! Posts: 4408 Joined: 20 Aug 2004 From: Ontario, Canada |
Oh boy, this was close for me. I picked Christopher Reeve for both Superman and Clark, bout Routh is a very, very close second. Far closer than I ever expected him to get!
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28 Jun 2006, 04:54 PM
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![]() Excellence of Execution Posts: 6225 Joined: 8 May 2005 From: Coatbridge, Scotland |
Haven't seen Superman Returns yet because I'm stuck in the crappy UK but I picked reeve for both. Personally don't really like the original films especially the camp way in which Lex was portrayed but Reeve managed to make me believe he was a clumsy idiot and an honest, valiant, almost invulnerable superhero at the same time.
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28 Jun 2006, 05:20 PM
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![]() Member Posts: 6779 Joined: 30 Dec 2002 From: Victoria, BC, Canada |
I picked Reeve for Superman and Welling for Clark. Reeve was awsome at both but I like the Smallville series because it does the job it should.
-------------------- Sith Apprentice to Dark Lady and Goddess Angylkat
'Shev'la kot, verd'yc dha'werd. Aliit Lohr - ratiin tome, draar shuk'la.' "Too much work and too much energy kill a man just as effectively as too much assorted vice or too much drink" ~Rudyard Kipling "Peace if possible, truth at all costs." ~Martin Luther Semper Vigilans ~Ever on Guard |
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28 Jun 2006, 05:22 PM
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![]() Professor Posts: 69662 Joined: 24 Feb 2001 From: The Tarasco Bar |
I liked Jeff Easts work there so I picked him and Christopher Reeve. Watching Jeff East in that entire section was like Anakin Skywalker, especially in Ep2 ...
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28 Jun 2006, 11:28 PM
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![]() Member of the Month Posts: 6363 Joined: 13 Apr 2004 |
Routh was fine, but he had almost no lines, and you're all forgetting that the only reason you're liking him is because of the nostalgic way he is invoking Christopher Reeve. If you didn't have Reeve, and the way he imbedded the character into our minds (seriously, Reeve WAS Superman. There is no other answer), Routh would seem like nothing special.
-------------------- I'd like to think it was his hand. It was pretty gusty in there. A little hand, when it fell, would probably not drop straight down and float around somewhat in the gust, and made it down by the time his entire body got down there. Here are 3 random reasons for a speedy return to the Expanded Universe: 1. Lieutenant Kettch. He's an Ewok pilot. |
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29 Jun 2006, 05:13 AM
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![]() Pastor of Muppets Posts: 5762 Joined: 29 Apr 2000 From: Louisiana, USA |
Christopher Reeve as both Superman and Clark.
Brandon Routh comes in a very close second as Superman and Tom Welling comes in a very close second as Clark. The latter for totally different reasons. But, yeah, Reeve will always be the best. Blade Runner makes some fine points. I can't see anyone ever improving on his look and portrayal of the Man of Steel. Routh did good, though. -------------------- |
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30 Jun 2006, 05:51 PM
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![]() Member Posts: 6779 Joined: 30 Dec 2002 From: Victoria, BC, Canada |
I liked Jeff Easts work there so I picked him and Christopher Reeve. Watching Jeff East in that entire section was like Anakin Skywalker, especially in Ep2 ... That was the character they based the Smallville charater of Clark Kent off of not Reeve's character. -------------------- Sith Apprentice to Dark Lady and Goddess Angylkat
'Shev'la kot, verd'yc dha'werd. Aliit Lohr - ratiin tome, draar shuk'la.' "Too much work and too much energy kill a man just as effectively as too much assorted vice or too much drink" ~Rudyard Kipling "Peace if possible, truth at all costs." ~Martin Luther Semper Vigilans ~Ever on Guard |
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1 Jul 2006, 06:01 AM
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I don't give a good Goddamn what anyone thinks, Christopher Reeve was and always will be the best Superman in film. I refuse to even see this new Superman movie. Kevin Spacey as Luthor? Bwahahahaha. Hackman's Lex would've made Spacey's Lex his b|tch, but I guess he would have liked that. Hehhehehe. Yeah, I went there.
P.S. Funny how Goddamn is unedited but "bi tch" isn't. Yah, we gotta be careful of our proper nouns vs nouns. yeeesh whatever -------------------- Sober- son of a *****, everything's real
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1 Jul 2006, 07:30 AM
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![]() HAVOK Posts: 457 Joined: 5 Jul 2005 |
I Have to wif with Routh n Welling,
N i think that spacey's lex would own hackman because hackman was all about funny, funy, homour where spacey can go way out there -------------------- Water...Earth...Fire...Air...
Long Ago the four nations lived together in harmony, then everything changed when the Fire nation attacked. Only the Avatar, Master of all four elements could stop them but when the world needed him the most he vanished. A hundred years past and the new Avatar was found a young Airbender named Aang. |
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1 Jul 2006, 07:32 AM
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![]() Extra-Terrestrial Posts: 2110 Joined: 19 Oct 2005 From: Providence, RI |
I voted Dean Cain because nobody else did.
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1 Jul 2006, 10:08 AM
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![]() Excellence of Execution Posts: 6225 Joined: 8 May 2005 From: Coatbridge, Scotland |
I have to wait like another week and a half until I can see Superman returns and it's taking all my energy not to look in the reviews thread as I don't want anything spoiled. But, if we're talking about a best Lex from what I've seen Spaceys Lex is better than Hackmans as his was just far too camp and all about the jokes, I don't blame Hackman for this I blame the writers. Spacey looks to have really pulled off the evil yet intelligent Lex of the comics. To me Michael Rosenbaum is the best Lex I've seen.
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1 Jul 2006, 10:57 AM
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![]() The King Posts: 3822 Joined: 9 Dec 2001 |
Routh was fine, but he had almost no lines, and you're all forgetting that the only reason you're liking him is because of the nostalgic way he is invoking Christopher Reeve. If you didn't have Reeve, and the way he imbedded the character into our minds (seriously, Reeve WAS Superman. There is no other answer), Routh would seem like nothing special. No, not really. I only saw the Reeve films a few times as a kid, so his Superman isn't really imbedded into my mind, and it's stupid to say "You only like Routh cause he's like Reeve." I chose Routh because I thought he did an awesome job. He was SuperMAN. When he had the cape on, he had a whole other demeanor to himself from when he was Clark Kent. Deeper voice, confident in his posture, sure of himself. Superman. -------------------- Information wants to be free yo
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1 Jul 2006, 12:41 PM
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![]() A Shadow on the Sea Posts: 4188 Joined: 19 Jul 2000 |
To me Michael Rosenbaum is the best Lex I've seen. Haven't seen the new film, but I agree 100% with this. No one will ever top Rosenbaum's Lex for me. He took him and turned him into a three demensional character instead of an out & out simplified villain. I'll also credit the writers. Smallville isn't a perfect show but Lex is perfect, IMO. I'm curious about the new film but I don't know when I'll see it. -------------------- "I was nothing more than an almost innocent bystander." - Jack Sparrow |
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1 Jul 2006, 04:27 PM
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RAWR! Posts: 4408 Joined: 20 Aug 2004 From: Ontario, Canada |
I like Rosenbaum as Lex a lot, but Spacey was fantastic. Although I like Reeve's Superman better that Routh's, I like Spacey's Lex a lot better than Hackman's.
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1 Jul 2006, 09:44 PM
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I still believe in love Posts: 1024 Joined: 25 Oct 2005 From: Manila,Philippines |
Routh.Routh.
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30 Jul 2006, 10:28 PM
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![]() Member Posts: 6779 Joined: 30 Dec 2002 From: Victoria, BC, Canada |
I watched the first season of Superboy. John Haymes Newton did a fairly decent job of playing him. He definantly had the look.
-------------------- Sith Apprentice to Dark Lady and Goddess Angylkat
'Shev'la kot, verd'yc dha'werd. Aliit Lohr - ratiin tome, draar shuk'la.' "Too much work and too much energy kill a man just as effectively as too much assorted vice or too much drink" ~Rudyard Kipling "Peace if possible, truth at all costs." ~Martin Luther Semper Vigilans ~Ever on Guard |
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31 Jul 2006, 10:13 AM
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![]() Member of the Month Posts: 6363 Joined: 13 Apr 2004 |
Routh was fine, but he had almost no lines, and you're all forgetting that the only reason you're liking him is because of the nostalgic way he is invoking Christopher Reeve. If you didn't have Reeve, and the way he imbedded the character into our minds (seriously, Reeve WAS Superman. There is no other answer), Routh would seem like nothing special. No, not really. I only saw the Reeve films a few times as a kid, so his Superman isn't really imbedded into my mind, and it's stupid to say "You only like Routh cause he's like Reeve." I chose Routh because I thought he did an awesome job. He was SuperMAN. When he had the cape on, he had a whole other demeanor to himself from when he was Clark Kent. Deeper voice, confident in his posture, sure of himself. Superman. You just like to contradict me. And it is NOT "stupid" to state what I have, it's actually the first thing that virtually EVERYONE seeing the film has said regarding it! It tends to be the first impression. Routh acts like Reeve. How you don't see it, makes you naive. This post has been edited by Blade Runner: 31 Jul 2006, 10:19 AM -------------------- I'd like to think it was his hand. It was pretty gusty in there. A little hand, when it fell, would probably not drop straight down and float around somewhat in the gust, and made it down by the time his entire body got down there. Here are 3 random reasons for a speedy return to the Expanded Universe: 1. Lieutenant Kettch. He's an Ewok pilot. |
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31 Jul 2006, 11:08 AM
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![]() The Super Posts: 4559 Joined: 23 Sep 2005 From: Omaha, NE |
Reeve IS Superman, but I went with Cain for Clark.
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31 Jul 2006, 08:44 PM
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Weird Girl Posts: 407 Joined: 16 Aug 2005 From: Edmonton, AB Canada |
Reeve & Cain, just to be different (or like Laridian). It was close with Routh & Cain for Clark.
Not to contradict you, Blade Runner, but as one of everybody, I didn't say Routh acts like Reeve. I thought Routh did a good job blending Reeve's trademarks with his own take, which is a little different. He paid homage, but made it his own. But Reeve is, was, and always will be Superman for me! -------------------- Gimme some sugar, baby! - Ash
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2 Aug 2006, 11:48 PM
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![]() Whisper to a shout Posts: 909 Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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But Reeve is, was, and always will be Superman for me! Ditto! Christopher Reeve made the role of Superman his own. -------------------- Attention stalkers! My Blog!
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3 Aug 2006, 01:03 AM
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![]() Member Posts: 6779 Joined: 30 Dec 2002 From: Victoria, BC, Canada |
Reeve & Cain, just to be different (or like Laridian). It was close with Routh & Cain for Clark. Not to contradict you, Blade Runner, but as one of everybody, I didn't say Routh acts like Reeve. I thought Routh did a good job blending Reeve's trademarks with his own take, which is a little different. He paid homage, but made it his own. But Reeve is, was, and always will be Superman for me! I am watching the Lois & Clark TV series on DVD now. About halfway through season 2. I feel Cain is not mild enough for Clark. He is definantly gutsy and more assertive as Clark. I just don't see much of a personality difference between Superman and Clark that is needed. This post has been edited by Darth_Malfoy: 7 Aug 2006, 02:23 AM -------------------- Sith Apprentice to Dark Lady and Goddess Angylkat
'Shev'la kot, verd'yc dha'werd. Aliit Lohr - ratiin tome, draar shuk'la.' "Too much work and too much energy kill a man just as effectively as too much assorted vice or too much drink" ~Rudyard Kipling "Peace if possible, truth at all costs." ~Martin Luther Semper Vigilans ~Ever on Guard |
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6 Aug 2006, 06:14 PM
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Member Posts: 225 Joined: 11 Jan 2004 |
Brandon's prob good but no way is he better than Reeve....I'd have to be seriously impressed for that to happen !!
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9 Jan 2008, 03:37 PM
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Member Posts: 1 Joined: 9 Jan 2008 |
In my opinion, Gerard Christopher is great!
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9 Jan 2008, 04:05 PM
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![]() 01.20.09 Posts: 13671 Joined: 5 May 2000 From: Huntsville, AL
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Reeve on both counts. Though I think it's a little unfair to compare Reeve's Clark to that of Welling. Even to Jeff East, who had his lines dubbed over by Reeve.
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9 Jan 2008, 05:49 PM
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![]() Member Posts: 1328 Joined: 4 Apr 2004 From: Greece |
Oh boy, this was close for me. I picked Christopher Reeve for both Superman and Clark, bout Routh is a very, very close second. Far closer than I ever expected him to get! -------------------- There is no emotion; there is peace.
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge. There is no passion; there is serenity. There is no chaos; there is harmony. There is no death; there is the Force. |
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9 Jan 2008, 05:58 PM
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![]() Member Posts: 178 Joined: 10 Jun 2006 From: Australia |
Hmm i dont know the names of the others i havnt watched much of them ethier ,mind you id have to say.....Clark kent.
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9 Jan 2008, 07:55 PM
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![]() Cotton-Headed Ninny Muggins Posts: 15241 Joined: 23 Apr 2003 From: Shermer, Illinois
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Wow, those are the bigest poll numbers I think I've seen on Nightly. I voted Reeve for both.
If the contest was for who does the best Christopher Reeve impression, it'd be Routh. -------------------- |
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9 Jan 2008, 11:56 PM
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![]() If this is a rom-com, kill the director... ![]() Posts: 11937 Joined: 23 Jun 2000 From: Atlanta-ish, GA |
Reeve/Reeve.
Period. -------------------- My Love, let me go again; right back, back to the top of the slide; down sad clown...
My clown, let me love you...What's that? Back to the back of the rebound? Clown hang around… Hey girl won't you take me out tonight? I'm not afraid of all the reasons why we shouldn't try… Hey girl won't you make me out tonight? I get excited when I think of crawling into your arms… |
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10 Jan 2008, 01:49 PM
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![]() Slainte! Posts: 3252 Joined: 17 Dec 2003 From: Norwalk, Ohio |
I picked George Reeves for Superman, and Christopher Reeve for Clark Kent.
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Bigotry has no head and cannot think, no heart and cannot feel. When she moves it is in wrath; when she pauses it is amid ruin. Her prayers are curses, her god is a demon, her communion is death, her vengeance is eternity, her decalogue is written in the blood of her victims, and if she stops for a moment in her infernal flight it is upon a kindred rock to whet her vulture fang for a more sanguinary desolation. --Daniel O'Connell, Irish statesman (1775-1847) |
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10 Jan 2008, 03:10 PM
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![]() Resident Kaijuologist ![]() Posts: 11038 Joined: 30 Apr 2002 From: Virginia Beach, Virginia |
Hey, wait a minute - Kirk Alyn - the very first actor to play Superman in film isn't up there.
Also, Bud Collyer is not on the list. Although he never actually wore the uniform, he was the very first man to portray Superman. Collyer played the dual Superman-Clark Kent role in both the hit radio series as well as in the well known Fleisher theatrical cartoons. I'd have to say that Collyer's is portrayal of Superman/Clark Kent could be THE defining performance, paving setting the tone for all the actors that would follow him. For further consideration of the significance of Bud Collyer's performance [and radio show's importance to Superman in general] well known aspects of the Superman mythos the Daily Planet, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, and Kryptonite all appeared on the radio show first. This post has been edited by The Shadow: 11 Jan 2008, 04:44 PM -------------------- I wish the expression 'free will' had never been invented. It is not recorded in Scripture either and should more justly be called self-will, which is worthless. --- Martin Luther
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10 Jan 2008, 05:09 PM
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![]() Indigenous Sith Posts: 14153 Joined: 6 Dec 2000 From: Buffalo, NY |
Christopher Reeve IS Superman.
Tom Welling IS Clark Kent. Those are the two definitive performances in my opinion... no one else comes close. |
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10 Jan 2008, 07:08 PM
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![]() 千本桜景厳 ![]() Posts: 26355 Joined: 22 Jun 1999 From: Colorado |
Reeve is both. Welling's Clark doesn't touch Reeve's Clark, in my opinion. Reeve required the least amount of stretching the limits of your imagination to actually make you believe Superman and Clark were two different people. No easy task. Welling basically just portrays a young, immature Superman without the costume.
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"It is a remarkable dichotomy. In many ways, Clark is the most human of us all. Then he shoots fire from the skies, and it is difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him." - Batman |
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11 Jan 2008, 12:02 AM
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![]() If this is a rom-com, kill the director... ![]() Posts: 11937 Joined: 23 Jun 2000 From: Atlanta-ish, GA |
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Yeah. See, I like what Welling has done/is doing (even though I admittedly haven't watched the show in a few years, I'll see the rest eventually). However, I almost consider it a departure from this survey. He has such a long time period to develop that it's almost not fair to the others. Plus, is he "a young, immature Superman" or is he a maturing Clark who hasn't yet reached "Superman" status? It foils the definition of the question. Either way, Reeve still wins. -------------------- My Love, let me go again; right back, back to the top of the slide; down sad clown...
My clown, let me love you...What's that? Back to the back of the rebound? Clown hang around… Hey girl won't you take me out tonight? I'm not afraid of all the reasons why we shouldn't try… Hey girl won't you make me out tonight? I get excited when I think of crawling into your arms… |
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11 Jan 2008, 05:01 AM
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![]() Indigenous Sith Posts: 14153 Joined: 6 Dec 2000 From: Buffalo, NY |
He has such a long time period to develop that it's almost not fair to the others. Well, I'm not really concerned if it's "fair" or not that he's had a longer time to portray the character... when I hear the name of Clark Kent I immediately think of Tom Welling. That's why in my opinion he has given the definitive performance as that character. I also agree with Phil_Muzza that Michael Rosenbaum IS Lex Luthor. This post has been edited by Sinister Lord Degiya'goh: 11 Jan 2008, 05:06 AM |
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11 Jan 2008, 07:16 PM
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![]() Member Posts: 6779 Joined: 30 Dec 2002 From: Victoria, BC, Canada |
Tom Welling's charactor was based of Jeff East's Clark in the first Superman movie. The focus was Clark alone.
-------------------- Sith Apprentice to Dark Lady and Goddess Angylkat
'Shev'la kot, verd'yc dha'werd. Aliit Lohr - ratiin tome, draar shuk'la.' "Too much work and too much energy kill a man just as effectively as too much assorted vice or too much drink" ~Rudyard Kipling "Peace if possible, truth at all costs." ~Martin Luther Semper Vigilans ~Ever on Guard |
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11 Jan 2008, 09:36 PM
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![]() I don't think I'll ever get over myself Posts: 4936 Joined: 8 Dec 2004 From: Columbia, SC |
The best Superman of all time was the one that got his ass kicked by Doomsday. Wish he would've stayed dead.
Superman sucks. Can't believe they're even bothering with a sequel. Some comic book heroes just need to go away. -------------------- I have to go return some videotapes
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12 Jan 2008, 01:17 AM
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![]() All Up in Your Grill Posts: 3174 Joined: 4 May 2005 From: Phoenix, AZ |
I picked George Reeves for Superman, and Christopher Reeve for Clark Kent. Christopher Reeve for both IMHO, but for me George is my second choice. George Reeves nailed the "Golden Era" Superman spot on, if you want to break superman down by the various ages. I like Rosenbaum as Lex a lot, but Spacey was fantastic. Although I like Reeve's Superman better that Routh's, I like Spacey's Lex a lot better than Hackman's. John Malcovich would have been a lot better than either, but Hackman was better than Spacey....though I think it had to do more with the director and lines, than Spacey himself. If Spacey was more like John Doe in Se7en, he would have been a lot better. |
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